Last Updated March 14th , 2025
Hi, I would like to speak up about Kaaatie/A3DGhost , mostly known for creating Fundamental Paper Education and other animations.
The point of this document is - to raise awareness and enforce accountability.
NOT to spread any hate. I just want to speak up and let people know
I highly suggest you to read these notes to avoid misunderstandings and to be able to read the document correctly.
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Please read the entire document before calling it fake/assuming things, most of the people that say this don’t even read the document and instantly assume things that are not true.
Many people (Including YouTubers) have misunderstood this document and assumed that we accused Katie of being a Pedo. However, this is not the case. We are fully aware that Katie is 16 years old and are not making such accusations. The purpose of this document is simply to point out problematic things she has done; things that she should have taken accountability for before quitting the internet.
(i already mentioned this above, but people still don't understand it.)
If you have any questions about this document, join https://discord.gg/wKrNs2BdT6
(All of these are clickable)
What exactly happened?
Before telling you, i need you to know that Kaaatie had an account named Little Elcho/AlziexLab (This will be important to know, because Kaaatie created problematic drawings under that account)
If you’re already aware of this or if you want to skip this part, click this
Now, before you say “their artstyles aren’t even similar” read all of this, it’ll have my reply on that argument
A lot of people [mostly og fans] know Little Elcho is Kaaatie, because when the Kaaatie channel was made (previously known as AlzieXLab/MiseryX)
Little Elcho made a post with the link of that channel.
On 2022-05-01 Little Elcho uploaded a video named “Where is my all characters video/community posts??” This video is fully lost media, but on the description she added the link to her new channel, which redirects to the current Kaaatie channel that we know today.
This was a spreadsheet that originally archived most of Little Elcho/AlzieXLab’s videos. However, after I shared the link in my server, the creator (who clearly dislikes me & the document) made it private. They also spread unnecessary misinformation about Axxelet, which ruined the archive. Because of this, we are working on recreating it without the false claims.
Kaaatie also blocks people on twitter if they mention anything about that account
(iqmarzuqi_87760)
Where is the proof?
Of course, there is much proof, including:
People coming to this same conclusion themselves:
.
If you don’t want to click on this link (though it’d be more helpful if u did)
here is basically what it is.
If you want to check this yourself, here is the link, you need to choose September 21 from 2022 ,
IF the archived links don’t work you need to set your windows theme to light mode (unironically thats needed for some old archives)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqD-wZeHajGk94rtDW97Ilg <— Paste this link in the waybackmachine and click September 21 2022 (if the website is blank use the solution above)
More:
https://www.reddit.com/r/FundamentalPaperEdu/comments/1eezkgk/comment/lfi6i9a/
Katie trying to hide the fact that she’s Little Elcho
This is IQmarzuQi, one of Katie’s old fans. He simply asked her what happened to Little Elcho and her old OCs, but instead of answering, she completely blocked him to avoid the question
This just proves that Katie is trying to hide from the allegations (No longer just allegations, since the evidence proves it’s true.)
and doesn’t want people digging into her past. Instead of addressing the question, she shuts it down completely to keep her dark secrets buried.
Some of you might say she’s just hiding her past because she’s embarrassed and has changed for the better. But that excuse falls apart for two reasons:
1. She was still following +18 accounts on Twitter in 2025, so it’s not like she suddenly became a better person. That’s recent behavior. This is clickable, if you want to skip to the newer incidents, though I highly recommend reading the entire document first.
2. If she really changed, she wouldn’t need to block people just for asking questions. A mature person would acknowledge their past and move on, not try to erase it and shut down anyone who brings it up.
for the people saying “their artstyles are not similar”
What i have to say:
In this picture you can see the connection between AlziexLab and Little Elcho (and again, it’s confirmed that Kaatie is AlziexLab with the Waybackmachine link mentioned above this)
KAATIE’S ARTWORK FROM 2024
COMPARED TO HER 2021-2022 ARTSTYLE
and
This video is no longer available on YouTube.
Link of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siuh5qNbwzU
If you look closely, they draw ears in the same way. No, this alone doesn’t prove they’re the same person, but it’s one of several similarities. Some people claim their art styles aren’t similar at all, but in reality, they are. The only thing is that her artstyle has improved significantly over time.
OG FANS CONFIRMING THIS IS TRUE.
You can find these comments in this playlist full people reuploading her old videos
“How long ago did she switch to kaatie?”
Answer
If you’re still more interested in finding out stuff about her old account or videos here are all the archive links you need.
Archive links
Archive links to the Elcho:
https://archive.ph/yYgHS <— A link of her old twitter profile @littlealzie
https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.youtube.com/@LittleElcho <— Waybackmachine Link of LittleElcho’s Channel
https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://youtube.com/channel/UCmyGZa6KlQqcUBvknTxJe7A <— Same thing but this one has more available dates
Archived Content By Kaaatie:
https://archive.org/search?query=kaaatie&sort=creator&and%5B%5D=firstCreator%3AK <— Some of kaatie’s old videos, all uploaded in the current account she has
(You need to change your computer to light mode for these to work, or it’ll show as a blank)
https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqD-wZeHajGk94rtDW97Ilg <—
Waybackmachine link of Kaatie kaatie’s current channel, if you pick an old date like september from 2022 you’ll have to do the thing mentioned above or it won’t work.
What are those links for?
Literally archive links for everything, like her old videos
Now, if you’re still not convinced even with all of this information, you can ask me questions on discord and i’ll answer them, but make sure to read properly because your question might already be in here.
User : axxelet
Here’s the most important part.
”What did Kaaatie do and WHY do i need to know that she’s Little Elcho?”
As i mentioned before, Kaaatie created pedophilic drawings under the Little Elcho account. This section explains it more
Basically, Little Alzi (Little Elcho or just kaaatie) drew pedophilic drawings (Darkships/Proships) , sexualized sarvente from fnf and made really questionable videos in the Little Elcho channel
Here are the images.
Source: iqmarzuqi’s playlist (We do NOT support this guy’s actions, he’s just like Katie.)
Posted in 2022, This was made when she would be 13 at the time, turning 14 very soon
This is Doctor Alexa kissing Alsi. (Basically minor x Adult)
Both of their ages are confirmed. Scroll down or click this to see them
Here are pictures confirming their ages, here’s are the videos where i got both of their ages.
Think Alsi’s age was changed? Then check this part.
“Alsi’s Changed Age” [INVALID]
Some fans have been saying that Alsi’s age “was changed to 19/25” and using this image to disprove this part of the document, for some strange reason they only talked about this part and not anything else on the document.
Even if this was partially true (or not), it still doesn’t disprove anything. Let me explain why:
Firstly, Katie drew Alsi as a baby, a character that clearly looks like a child, not an adult
She had already made an adult-looking version of Alsi (Clickable)
yet she chose to use the younger-looking one for this drawing. This is the same excuse lolicons use to justify sexualizing young girls, and it’s obviously not okay..
Just “changing” a character’s stated age doesn’t erase how they actually look.
Is this not clear? Well, another example of this would be Kanna Kamui from that dragon anime. She is stated to be over 1,000 years old, yet she is clearly designed to look like a child, wonder why..
Because lolicons use the "but she's actually 1,000 years old!" excuse to justify drawing or consuming inappropriate content of characters that are clearly designed to look like children
And not to mention, the evidence for Alsi’s age being changed is weak at best. The screenshots people are using only show unclear timestamps like “2 weeks ago” or “2 months ago” instead of exact dates.
For example:
• A post saying “May I change the age of some characters XDDDDD” is marked as “2 weeks ago.”
• The picture of them kissing is supposedly from “10 days ago.”
• Another post claims Alsi’s age was changed to 19 “2 months ago.”
But without exact dates, there’s no way to prove the order of events. These could be manipulated screenshots, or even taken from unreliable Wayback Machine links where dates can be changed and reloaded to create a false timeline.
For all we know, the age change could have been made after the drawing to cover it up. If the timeline isn’t clear, then this argument falls apart.
Height differences (MASSIVE DIFFERENCE.)
If you look closely, Alsi is literally 1.08 m (the height of a baby) while Alexa is a grown ass woman
“Oh, short people exist”
Being short doesn’t make someone look like a child. There’s a big difference between a short adult and a character that is clearly designed to look like a kid. This excuse is just a way to ignore the real issue. If the character has childlike features, proportions, and is drawn in a way that makes them look like a kid, then calling them an “adult” doesn’t change anything.
Exact date of this is unknown.
Elcho X Chloe (from We Bare Bears)
This one is also problematic. Even if they're both minors. 14 year old with 10 year old, let me explain why:
It’s bad because it involves characters with a big age gap during a stage of life when a few years make a huge difference in maturity. A 10-year-old is a child, while a 14-year-old is starting to become a teenager
And in season 3 Chloe was 5, which just makes it worse.
This was mentioned in the episode : The Perfect Tree
Some people tried debunking this part by saying stuff like:
• “Nosebleeds don’t indicate sexual arousal!” - Which in this case it does.
• “Nosebleeds can be caused by dry air, high blood pressure, or trauma/and other medical conditions”
• “Just because Elcho has a nosebleed doesn’t mean it’s romantic.”
• “Giving flowers doesn’t automatically mean he has feelings for Chloe.”
• “The presentation says ‘not a ship,’ so it’s not a ship.”
• “Elcho ‘liking’ Chloe doesn’t specify what kind of liking.”
• “Blushing can happen for many reasons, not just romance.”
• “You’re overreacting, it’s just fictional characters.”
This debunk is weak because it ignores context and misrepresents the evidence.
The “debunk” doesn’t actually refute anything. It just distracts with medical trivia while ignoring clear visual cues and in-universe evidence. The images, character presentation, and show context all support that this was a romanticized relationship with an inappropriate age gap, making it problematic.
I have more to say about this, click this if you want to see my responses to these arguments
Now, here are the “Questionable videos” i mean:
Full screenshot.
As u see in the picture, i took this picture with the wayback machine, i put the link of the Little Elcho channel and picked the date “ November 27 2022 “
There's many available dates, but i'm not sure if she kept the video in 2023
Uploaded May 19th 2021 (Making her 12, but she kept the video for years)
I don't wish to directly embed the videos here, but i will put the link where i reuploaded 3 Ruv x Sarv videos:
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMkheyymj/
These three videos alone span from: 19 May 2021 - 08 Jul 2021.
One of them was bait, but the other 2 are literally Ruv staring at sarvente’s ass and pretending to sleep
And the other one is literally naked Sarvente and Ruv staring at her
Now, you might say “Oh, but Sarvente and Ruv are both adults , what’s wrong with this”
This shows us that Kaaatie had a 🌽 addiction at a very young age
She uploaded the earliest video in 2021, making her 12 while the video she made had +15 on the title, so she was younger than that.
In addition:
Two fully lost? videos Also shows Kaaatie dipping her toes into pornographic related topics at an even earlier date.
Hey juicy meme animation (13+) An animation meme uploaded 21 May 2020 Yet again, using an age gating title that is much older than herself. using this song: https://youtu.be/WTQrLOoinjs
That contains extreme sexual language and topics, Only god knows what was actually in the video. 🙏 But most
animation memes with this song contain extremely sexual content. Not to say all of them do, But most do.
Sizo meme 18+ Another animation meme uploaded 08 Apr 2019. AGAIN. but this time even worse. Using this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz2R_5h3Nnc
Most animation memes using this are not sexual, usually only having an age+ in the title because of the lyrics, But essentially never reaching 18+. Again, Only god knows what could’ve been in that video to have her put 18+ in the title.
Maybe something similar to these uploads. (Each word is a different video) I don’t know. (SPECULATION)
And with Kaatie being 11 while making the Hey Juicy animation, and 10 making the Sizo animation, Circles back to the highly likely point of Kaaatie having a 🌽 addiction at a young age.
Think the shipping videos stop in 2021? No. G x P (Alphabet lore) Archived here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWrWRsfuXpQ (slop content video i know 💀 This is not the original video, and is cropped on the whiteboard.)
On May 1st 2022 She posted This video: “Where is my all characters video/community posts??” A video explaining how Kaaatie will not be owning the channel past this point Presumably. The video was never archived anywhere I’m aware of.
If the upload dates aren’t stated here, they’re viewable on the video’s Filmot page.
Does she still have an addiction? Well we don’t know for sure, But I would not put it past her to still have one just because all of this was from 2019-2022, check this next part
Information from 2024-2025
If you thought Kaaatie changed, then think again.
In early 2025 Kaaatie was following NSFW/fetish accounts on her twitter account A3DGhost
We don’t need any wayback machine links for this one, since its information from the present.
Yall can check it yourselves, it is available on her twitter account
Updates
February 11th: She has unfollowed everyone (Including non suggestive accounts) and removed all of her posts on Twitter.
March 3rd : She deactivated her twitter account.
Warning. This section contains innapropiate topics such as censored NSFW (+18 Content/Suggestive Content)
Accs
Twitter accs that kaaatie follows that does NSFW/fetish content:
(This section is unfinished, i’m currently adding the links to the posts and the accounts)
Note: NSFW As a definition, Does not only mean pornographic content. it can mean ANY content
that you would not show others in a professional/work setting. This includes overly suggestive drawings.
Nite (Suggestive)
Post 1 https://x.com/niteeee9314/status/1600054131515097088
Post 2 https://x.com/niteeee9314/status/1797651363188600889
Post 1 https://x.com/Wereleel/status/1832178802073416160/photo/1
Post 2 https://x.com/Wereleel/status/1698635074256707745/photo/1
Post 3
https://x.com/Wereleel/status/1492051134575427594/photo/1
Post 4
https://x.com/Wereleel/status/1482069205268717568/photo/1
And not to mention, Wereweel has reposted NSFW fanart of her OCs
NSFW WARNING AGAIN.
(I censored it, but in the original post it's completely uncensored.)
.
Link to the post above
https://x.com/eldstunga/status/1720897911964254593
Post 1 https://x.com/ferafel_/status/1786108259893498061
Post 2 https://x.com/ferafel_/status/1883965693873529140/photo/1
Post 3 https://x.com/ferafel_/status/1832931114010259840/photo/3
Post 4 https://x.com/ferafel_/status/1746997245021405321
Post 5 https://x.com/ferafel_/status/1678072099900911616/photo/1
Post 6 https://x.com/ferafel_/status/1614931077444820994/photo/4
okay.
Gaziter (Suggestive)
Post 1 https://x.com/Gaziter/status/1564639643055919104
As you can see, Gaziter reposted this, In the original post this was completely uncensored
Another potentially suggestive fanart for Gaziter’s goat oc (This person even has +18 on their username which tells us it’s a +18 Account ( their entire account has porn.)
Haruyoshi (Foot Fetish Content)
https://x.com/N_haruyoshi/status/1869340710845260083
https://x.com/N_haruyoshi/status/1869235475040592344
https://x.com/N_haruyoshi/status/1877688470665331128
big_squid_man (Bara content)
(literally him admitting that it’s a suggestive account)
https://x.com/big_squid_man/status/1847091113737244766
Raydium (Account Privated)
Pukan ← The creator of this account passed away, but I’m keeping it in here since the account had a lot of Sexual drawings. I do not wish ill on her friends or family and do not condone harassment in any capacity. Also noting here that Kaaatie and Pukan follow each-other, confirmed via the twitter API, And that they’ve been following since before her tragic passing.
https://x.com/pukan_animation/status/1808995398457217522
https://x.com/pukan_animation/status/1813472877574041750/photo/1
https://x.com/pukan_animation/status/1762799820182618619
I don’t think that the status of the owner should invalidate these tweets as evidence of Kaaatie following people who have posted Sexual drawings before, during or after she chose to follow them. If you think otherwise, then you can choose to exclude this person.
Are these not enough? On her previously mentioned Alt twitter account @littlealzie, There’s Even MORE.
<Image highlighting the accounts yet to be made>
Formatted:
@Username Concrete/Arguable (For how NSFW the content could be considered). The link(s) to said content.
@tocattaart Concrete: https://x.com/tocattaart/status/1816331283418542294
@Imbynova Concrete: https://x.com/Imbynova/status/1800323627184988461
@JinuSenpai Concrete: The entire profile
@kolshicako Concrete: https://x.com/kolshicako/status/1830041632458375341
@theycallhimcake Concrete: https://x.com/theycallhimcake/status/1866253624709673201
@fumio9361 Concrete: https://x.com/fumio9361/status/1874332848129532406
@rolo_stuff Arguable: https://x.com/rolo_stuff/status/1829983099851313532
@YoshaZB7 Arguable: https://x.com/YoshaZB7/status/1508138382777589760
@thekilinah Concrete: https://x.com/thekilinah/status/1827736490249507272
@Klakala4 Arguable: https://x.com/Klakala4/status/1882849006340190706
@KlNGLET Concrete: https://x.com/KlNGLET/status/1610456271810924544
@SODA_UYU Arguable: https://x.com/SODA_UYU/status/1867105873677680730
@handaiteol Arguable: https://x.com/hanadaiteol/status/1859289348019192118
@floominallday Concrete: https://x.com/floominallday/status/1549031764999282690
@tai_tai_kun Concrete: https://x.com/tai_tai_kun/status/1748657510108778952
@Kawarage_sabu Arguable: https://x.com/Kawarage_sabu/status/1689985138900496384
@Magiace1 Arguable: https://x.com/Magiace1/status/1750063287365194053
@NAlu_Ame021 Concrete: The entire profile, https://x.com/NAlu_Ame021/status/1631598060349571072
🔼 I will say this one is by far the worst one. Most if not all of these look like OR are kids. 🔼
@115MEG Concrete: https://x.com/115MEG/status/1811367378607038634
@wxyjs1997 Arguable: https://x.com/wxyjs1997/status/1881654315649310916 https://x.com/wxyjs1997/status/1398260526090571777
All of these accounts span from being followed Somewhere Near the account’s creation to Q1 2023 or Q2 2023. And if you’re remembering the timeline and how old she is, This WOULD mean that she is well aware of who she’s following, and why she’s following them. Not to mention following JinuSenpai. who EXPLICITLY states they are a porn account.
The full json of both the accounts following lists On LittleAlzie there may be more as the JSON shows the full following list. and the website will only show a shorter version.
LittleAlzie
Do NOT go out of your way to harass anyone listed above, If you do you’re a loser.
Arguments/FAQ or whatever
This section is to address and respond to stupid arguments or defenses people use regarding whatever topic in this document, it also breaks down these arguments and explains why they are weak or misleading, and provides evidence to refute them.
First Argument
This person is talking about the darkship art made in 2022 (Alsi x Alexa)
“Wasn’t she like 13 at the time???!!?”
Not exactly.
Keep in mind katie was born in 2008, she’s currently 16 turning 17 this year.
This drawing was made in early 2022, making her 13 TURNING 14. Either way, she was definitely old enough to understand what she was doing. And let’s be real, 13-year-olds are fully capable of knowing when something is wrong, they’re not babies. They’re teenagers that are able to reason and understand consequences
Then there’s the claim that she’s “clearly taken measures to show she doesn’t like her past content.”
Yeah, and what are those measures? Blocking anyone who brings it up? That’s not “taking accountability” that’s just running from the conversation.
Plus, not everything in this document is years old, some of it happened as recently as this year, and people seem to be conveniently ignoring those things, including Katie, WOW!!
“But Katie’s 16, She Couldn’t Have Done Something Like That!”
Yes, she’s 16. Everyone knows that. But being 16 doesn’t erase what she did. The NSFW animations, the darkships, following NSFW accounts.. her age doesn’t magically make these things disappear. She still made them.
And if you completely misunderstood the document (which seems to be the case for a lot of people)
We are NOT accusing her of being a pdf file. If you still think that, you clearly didn’t read the full document. 😭
Some of the problematic content was made when she was 13 (Pre Birthday 2022)
But other problematic stuff happened recently or not too long ago (like when she was 15-16)
And yes, 13 (and even younger) is more than old enough to understand that drawing stuff like that isn’t okay
”Oh, but people can change, let the past be past.”
I'm gonna give examples of why this isn’t logical to say
So, the thing is: Yall defend Kaaatie too much just because her art is cool and because of her age.
Third
“Kaatie isnt Little Elcho, look at both of their channels, she’s still active.[1] Stupid liar!”
I’ve already replied to this argument, but im adding it again since most of you don’t read the full thing
Kaatie SOLD her Little Elcho account , and how do i know? easy, OG FANS.
Little Elcho posted a link to her new channel before she sold it (The current channel she has) It was previously named as AlziexLab
This argument is stupid, since I already showed ENOUGH proof above.
(Links, Sources, Images and literally everything useful]
If you don’t want to check any of that then i just won’t bother explaining everything again,
Fourth
”yap yap yap too much text 🤓 i aint reading allat” (they mean this document)
this one’s gotta be the worst one out of all.
It's not even that much text, i added the most important things in here
I understand yall love Kaaatie, but this is important🤦♀️
If you want to see proof, this document is where you’ll see it.
Istg if you’re gonna be like this, please dont dm me at all, i am not forcing you to believe this, but it's better to know the truth than to stay ignorant
Fifth
“I dont believe anything of what you said”
i’m not forcing you to believe it, you can think whatever you want and keep being an ignorant.
But most of the people that say this don’t actually read the full document
I understand people might not believe it because it’s their favorite animator, but it still doesn’t mean it’s not true.
If you don’t believe something in here tell me on discord, and i’ll reply to it, but give actual questions, don't just yap about unnecessary things like this guy
Sixth
“The ages of Alsi were changed Before the overly suggestive drawing!”
While yes potentially true, This would not provide a reasonable excuse as to why Kaaatie decided to draw Alsi
like a child still, And not like an adult in this drawing she made at some point:
You can tell that she chose to draw the younger looking version by the fact that in the photo, Alsi has the horn, and their Adult/Teenager version Does not. If you don’t care that Alsi is drawn like a child in that image, That says A lot more about you as a person.
Seventh
“Why does it matter that she’s following people/friends on twitter that post sexual content from time to time?”
(And)
“You can’t just diagnose someone with a porn addiction.”
First part
Two reasons.
It’s not some complex hacker task to view who someone is following.
It’s generally not wise to follow accounts that post sexual content when you Know that your audience is mostly built of young impressionable people, considering that if they were bored. they would go through your following list, (in hopes of trying to find what you like to relate to you as a creator more OR just pure boredom) See that sexual content, and either be traumatized, Or Given a 🌽 addiction of their own.
Second Part
It is not rocket science to make the very easy link that if someone views pornographic content on a frequent basis, that they have an addiction to 🌽. Think about it yourself. If you were watching that sort of content constantly, Would you say you were addicted? Chances are you wouldn’t. But gamblers will also swear up and down that they’re not addicted to gambling. Yet if you actually take a step back and look at what they’re doing, It’s painfully obvious they have an addiction and that they need help quitting.
I’m not saying that she still has an addiction to sexual content, The accounts she follows now are not as bad as on her old twitter account. but there is still content that I don’t think her fans should be able to access very easily from their favorite creator’s page. That would be a bad role model to have, Especially if they’re on twitter Telling people to not draw NSFW/Ship art of their characters.
(Which they still are/were during FPE’s popularity spike)
8th
A certain person’s “Debunk” about the Elcho x Chloe ship
A person tried to argue that Elcho x Chloe wasn’t a ship and that it’s an exaggeration,. Here’s what he said and why his entire debunk is wrong.
As i mentioned earlier, this guy’s “debunk” is pathetic. This list of reasons on why people get nosebleeds is his debunk.
“Nosebleeds don’t mean sexual arousal”
This person claims that nosebleeds aren’t a sign of attraction and can be caused by other things like dry air, high blood pressure, or injury.
But in anime and cartoons, nosebleeds are literally a known thing for being flustered or attracted to someone, i even put an image that explained it.
I’ll put it here again so maybe you can understand it??
He listed medical causes for nosebleeds, implying that Elcho’s wasn’t romantic.
Those causes are completely irrelevant here. Elcho isn’t in a dry environment, injured, or sick. The only context we see is her blushing, giving Chloe flowers, and having a nosebleed
“Just because Elcho has a nosebleed doesn’t mean it’s romantic.”
If it was just a nosebleed with no other context, maybe. But here, it’s paired with blushing, gift-giving, and romantic body language. The combination makes it clear.
“Giving flowers doesn’t automatically mean he has feelings for Chloe.”
Giving flowers can be platonic, but when paired with blushing and a nosebleed, it strongly suggests romantic intent
Flowers are one of the most common symbols of affection in romantic stuff.
”Blushing can happen for many reasons, not just romance.”
Correct! but context matters in here, Elcho is literally blushing while giving Chloe flowers and getting a nosebleed, do you really think she blushed because of other reasons? no.
“Katie herself stated that it’s not a ship “
Just because Katie said that doesn’t make it true. The way Elcho and Chloe act—blushing, giving flowers, nosebleeds,hugging—clearly looks romantic. If it wasn’t meant to be, why add all those romance tropes?)
And let’s not ignore the fact that in Elcho’s own presentation, under the “likes” section, it literally says Chloe. If it wasn’t supposed to be romantic, they could’ve just written “friends” or something else. But they didn’t.
Creators can say whatever they want, but that doesn’t erase what’s already in the content. If people see it as a ship, it’s because it looks like one.
Your entire “debunk” (This isn’t even considered a debunk💔💔) is just you desperately trying to excuse something that’s clearly wrong. Your arguments are weak, full of ignorance, and it’s obvious you’re only defending Katie because she’s your favorite animator. Instead of actually looking at the facts, you just cherry-picked random explanations to make it seem like there’s nothing wrong. But no matter how much you try to twist it, the truth is still the truth.
In short, Kaaatie did all of this.
All of the things I mentioned are problematic because it normalizes bad ideas and affects people who see it.
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Im constantly updating this document , I will be adding more to this document later, this is only the most relevant things, IF you have any argument ill add it in here and respond to it,
if you didn’t understand anything of what i said Please learn how to read properly.
(English isn’t my first language, but my grammar isn’t even that bad bffr. -Axxelet)
